Sept. 14, 2025

Understanding Tragedy: The Unfortunate Death of Charlie Kirk

Understanding Tragedy: The Unfortunate Death of Charlie Kirk

This podcast episode delves into the profound implications of recent violent events, specifically the tragic killing of Christian advocate Charlie Kirk. I articulate my vehement stance against the act of violence as a means of expressing dissent, emphasizing the necessity of dialogue and debate as foundational elements of a democratic society. I reflect upon the consequences of such violence, particularly the irrevocable loss experienced by Kirk's family, which serves as a poignant reminder of the human cost of ideological conflict. Furthermore, I contend that the act not only silences an individual but paradoxically galvanizes the very beliefs and movements it sought to extinguish. Ultimately, I advocate for a return to respectful discourse as a means to resolve disagreements, urging listeners to engage thoughtfully rather than resorting to violence.

The podcast episode delves into the recent tragic event involving Charlie Kirk, a well-known figure advocating for conservative Christian values. Throughout the discussion, we express a profound sense of disbelief and frustration regarding the senseless act of violence that claimed his life. We articulate our views on the importance of civil discourse and debate, emphasizing that the ability to engage in dialogue is a cornerstone of a healthy society. The episode examines the implications of Kirk's death, not only on his family—leaving behind a young widow and two children—but also on the broader societal landscape. We argue that such acts of violence undermine the very principles of debate and discussion that are vital for progress and understanding among differing opinions. The episode serves as a clarion call for compassion and dialogue, highlighting the need for society to reject violence as a means of resolving disagreements and instead embrace conversation as a transformative tool for change.

Takeaways:

  • In this podcast episode, we explore the serious implications of violent actions against public figures.
  • The tragic event concerning Charlie Kirk raises questions about societal values on debate and discourse.
  • I express my strong opinion that violence is not a justified response to differing beliefs.
  • The importance of engaging in discussions rather than resorting to violence is emphasized throughout the episode.
  • We acknowledge the impact of violence on families, particularly the children left without parents.
  • The episode concludes with a reminder to foster kindness and dialogue in our communities.

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Companies mentioned in this episode:

  • 11 Labs IO
  • Turning Point USA
  • Gray Hair Productions
  • boomerpodcasters.com

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How are you today, folks?

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I hope you're doing well.

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Gray haired Dave here is doing pretty good.

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It's, it's a Monday here where I am.

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And last week was, was, was quite the week here in the US And I'm sure anybody around the world has already heard about this.

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But man, the things that go on in, in my country and in this part of the world for no reason at all.

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I'm sure you all heard about Charlie Kirk, who's a, a Christian advocate and likes to go to colleges or wherever he can and debate people on their thoughts and try to bring them around to Christianity and maybe his conservative way of thinking.

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And he.

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None of it is, is mean.

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None of it is cruel.

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You know, there's no fighting.

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It's just words back and forth, talking back and forth.

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Debate, debate is what this war, what this country was founded on.

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When the founding fathers of the United States sat there in Philadelphia, they were debating each other on what to say and what they wanted and what was important to all of us, and debating what would be needed in the future, what future generations would want and need.

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So when they made the Declaration of Independence, it was a living, breathing document that it is today.

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I have no sympathy for the man who shot and killed Charlie Kirk.

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And if you do, that's your right.

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And I'm going to say this right now, folks, everything I'm saying is my opinion.

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If you don't like it, you have an option.

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You can stop listening to this podcast.

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Maybe never come back again.

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I hope that's not the case.

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I hope you want my opinion instead of this young man, and I call him young man because he's younger than me.

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Instead of going down there and voicing his opinion with Charlie Kirk, talking with him, debating him.

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He decides Charlie Kirk doesn't deserve to live anymore, folks.

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God doesn't allow us to take lives.

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He gets to take lies, not us.

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That's not right.

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And that's the reason that it really, really, really.

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You've got to do a lot wrong as a criminal in the United States to be put to death.

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And it almost always involves killing somebody.

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But this boy made the ultimate mistake when he killed Charlie Kirk.

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He killed him in Utah.

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And Utah has a death is a death penalty state.

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In fact, they still believe in the firing squad.

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This is what I've been told and what I've read and what I've heard.

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So anyways, I think it's despicable.

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I think that it's, it's wrong.

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This is a man in, in his early 30s, I think he was 31, has a beautiful wife, two beautiful young kids under the age of five who now have, have no father, no husband.

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Their father will never be able to walk them down the aisle.

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One of them is a girl.

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Never be able to walk them down the aisle at her wedding.

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Every daughter wants that, I'm sure.

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So why.

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And my understanding now is he's not cooperating.

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And I know that he has his own beliefs and they are his beliefs, which is fine.

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He is entitled to his beliefs, but he's not entitled to take a life.

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I.

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He thought about it.

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He.

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This was not a chance meeting between the two of them.

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He figured this out and he decided, I'm going to go kill somebody today.

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How, how messed up in the head do you have to be to say, I don't like you, I want to take your life?

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Are we not a society and a culture and a world who is tired of this and the only way we seem to be able to get past it is to kill people.

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To go to war with somebody or go to war with a country, you know, it's just not, it's not right.

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It's just.

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I'm sorry if you can tell.

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I'm just a tad bit upset about this.

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Try not to be, folks.

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I try.

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I try not to be.

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I try not to get angry every time I see something about this.

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So I don't watch the news anymore.

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I will turn on the local news about 15, 16 minutes after the hour so that I can catch the weather at 18 minutes past the hour.

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Other than that, I don't need to know.

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Not right now.

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It just angers me.

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It doesn't anger me to the point of wanting to kill somebody, though it angers me to the point of such frustration that I don't know what to do about it.

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His wife, his widow now has made a statement and basically saying that this young man has created more Charlie Kirks and he could have ever known, because now everybody who believes in what he was doing is going to follow in his footsteps.

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His organization, Turning Point usa, will probably now have more people in it than it ever had before.

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That guy made Charlie Kirk almost a martyr.

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And that's not what he was there to do.

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He was there to try and enlighten people and open people's eyes and to make them think about the fact that there's always more than one opinion.

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Now, he won some people over.

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I, I'm.

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I know he did.

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I've seen it in the, I've seen it in the, the videos, and I think it's fantastic.

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You know, you're not going to win everybody over and bring them over to your side, but if you don't debate, you don't deserve the right to kill.

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And even if you do debate, why kill?

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I, I don't know, folks.

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I know this is all about one person today, but it's what's on my mind has been on my mind for a week, and I'm pissed about it.

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I'm sorry.

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Because I was never fortunate enough to have children.

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This man was.

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And now he's got two children that don't have a dad.

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And that's, that's not fair to them kids.

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That man, this young man did not think about those two children growing up without a dad.

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So that's.

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Excuse my language, but that's just.

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That's just wrong.

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Okay?

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